New Bugs – For Rent & Post Dec 5, 2023 Game Update (Sims 4)

Video Link

Follow up Video with more For Rent Bugs

Links Referred to in my Videos:

Crinrict’s Tweet re steps to take to protect saves & builds (covered in my second video): https://twitter.com/crinrict/status/1736428017222557737

EA Answers Head Quarters (‘AHQ’) Reports Base Game/Other Packs Bugs:

Get Famous Bug – No NPC Staff on Community Lots: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/WORKAROUND-GF-Customer-Service-NPCs-Don-t-Spawn-on-Community/td-p/13282016

Gardening issues: weeding stuck in loop: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/NEEDS-SAVES-Weeding-animation-loops-and-weeds-aren-t-removed/td-p/11061955 Edited to add now has mod fix by Thunder.

Also can’t tend out of season plants: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-S-Cannot-tend-to-plants-that-are-out-of-season-despite/td-p/13284426

Game freezes when try to merge households through live mode (workaround is to do it through manage worlds): https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-Merging-households-through-dialog-doesn-t-proceed/td-p/13278599

Eco Dew Collector Throws LE (this has a mod fix, see below): https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-ECO-Dew-Collector-causes-LE-and-does-not-provide-water/m-p/13305618#M264071

EA AHQ For Rent Bugs:

Mentioned in First Bug Video:

Property Ownership not recognized: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-FR-Property-ownership-not-recognized-in-owned-rental-tab/td-p/13290834

Tenants won’t pay rent: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-FR-Tenants-wont-pay-rent/td-p/13289161

Rental Protest Unsolvable: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/FR-Rental-Protest-unsolveable/td-p/13289022

Maintenance Event Doesn’t Tick Off: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-FR-Maintenance-event-doesn-t-tick-off/m-p/13288539#M262661

Justly Evicting and Still Being Fined: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-FR-Justly-evicting-and-still-being-fined/td-p/13289586

Owners Can’t edit Residential Rental Lot: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-FR-Residential-Rentals-Unable-to-Build-Edit-lot/td-p/13288592

Residential Lot Name Keeps Reverting to Default: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-FR-Residential-Rental-Lot-Name-Keeps-Reverting-to-Default/m-p/13295405#M263185

Tenant can’t pay bills: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-FR-Can-t-Pay-Bills-Tenant/td-p/13291544

Can’t sent Plopsy or Trendi items on Residential Rental lots: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-FR-HSY-NKSP-Tenants-can-t-send-items-on-Plopsy-Trendi/td-p/13291453

Constant Dirty Surrounding moodlet from pressure cooker and/or kettle (this has a mod fix): https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-FR-Constantly-dirty-surroundings-moodlet-from-Pressure/td-p/13290531

Mentioned in Second Bug Video:

Can’t change residential rental lot type to something else: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/NEEDS-SAVES-FR-Stuck-on-Residential-Rental-Lot-type/td-p/13291850

Error 102/122: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-Error-code-102-122-a0adad34/td-p/13293911

Exclamation Marks over Lots & Lots Gone/Can’t be accessed: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-Orange-Exclamation-signs-over-lots-Houses-disappear/td-p/10533991

Mod Fixes Mentioned in the Video:

Thunder Dew Collector Fix: https://www.patreon.com/posts/bugfix-eco-dew-94597719 (Thunder has other bug fix mods, check out their Patreon for the free fixes).

Nate the L0ser spoiled appliance Fix: https://www.patreon.com/posts/tiny-mod-no-no-94494116?l=fr

Not shown, but mentioned, LittleMsSam gardening work around fix: https://www.curseforge.com/sims4/mods/rbf-gardening-workaround-fix (note that the latest release of this mod was on Dec 7, 2023).

Updated to add Thunder released a Bug Fix mod for the issue with weeding while gardening after I released my video: https://www.patreon.com/posts/bugfix-tend-fix-94711697
Note this bug fix requires Lot 51 Core Library which is also linked on their bug fix post and Thunder states that it is compatible with LittleMsSam’s gardening workaround fix.

Other Links:

Crinrict’s EA AHQ on how to how the bug forum works & how to fill out bug reports (referred to in my second bug video): https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/INFORMATION-How-does-this-forum-work/m-p/7368632#M181733

Note that the links that follow are just a handful that I saw that seemed ‘popular’, here’s a link to EA AHQ to see what other bugs are reported and if you don’t see your bug, and have tested in a mod and cc free game (which means nothing in your mods folder but the resource file which the game automatically generates), then do a bug report making sure to fill out the template. https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/bd-p/The-Sims-4-Bugs

SimsDirect Get Famous Workaround Tweet: https://twitter.com/TheSimsDirect/status/1734331011817783629

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Overview of Developer Gameplay Walkthrough of For Rent (Sims 4)

Link to my video overview

Agenda:

  1. CAS
  2. Build/Buy
  3. Assigning Units with New Lot Type
  4. New World
  5. Game Play

I also cover what I noticed was coming in the Base Game Update and some information from some tweets from after the Livestream.

Create a Sim

Showed the CAS for males and females, teen and up. Showed CAS for infants through children (female sim used)

They also mentioned the four new aspirations & five new traits, these were also mentioned in the blog post

Four New Aspirations:

Location: Fount of Tomarani Knowledge (all about wanting to explore the world & immerse themselves in this culture)

Deviance: Seeker of Secrets (all about snooping & having a ravenous appetite to know about your neighbours and the hot gossip)

Popularity: Discerning Dweller (all about wanting to be a great tenant & great neighbour too)

Fortune: Five-Star Property Owner (This Sim wants to be the best Property Owner the world has ever seen!)

Five New Traits:

  • Cringe,
  • Generous,
  • Nosey,
  • Child of the Village,
  • & Elder specific, Wise. You can assign wise if you create an elder sim or it maybe earned when a sim ages up to elder if they had level 10 logic or genius trait (but didn’t seem to be guaranteed). Elders can also get it through the Growing Together self discovery system.

Build Mode

New hot tub has faux rock facades.

New grill, which is a reward for one of the two new events (reward for a good potluck)

New mailboxes – for single home, for duplex and for apartment

Marbles and hopscotch (only children can play with marbles, but anyone can collect. Hopscotch primarily for children, but teens and up can use).

For Rent signs (one for ground and one for wall)

No shoes from SE moved to Base Game. Can set it on shoe rack and there is a new sign for the For Rent pack.

Also showed new awnings, doors, rugs, curtains, curtain ‘rod’

Pressure cookers and kettles.

Note new colours are being added to some base game appliances (so there are more colours to match the new pressure cookers and kettles & ice cream maker/popcorn maker)

Will also be able to boil water in microwave in addition to using the kettle.

Also showed new foods.

Mini fridge

Another narrow dishwasher (but needs full counter)

Squat toilets

Toddler potty

New plants

Water heater, air conditioner, electrical fuse box, solar water heater & radiator.

Water heater &electrical fuse box have gameplay associated with them for any lot.

Air conditioner and radiator have some functionality if you own seasons.

If you don’t want functional ones, they have decorative versions.

Pool floatie (reward for the other social event, pool party).

Also showed the furniture, which was based around some different woods and some plastic chairs, new kitchen counters and more.

Dingy decals to make things look grungy and lived in.

Residential Rentals

Showed from map view some existing residential rentals.

Note they aren’t just apartments, you can have duplexes, townhomes, in law suites and single room rentals.

They then showed how the tool worked using Pique Hearth (Pancakes’ home but placed in Newcrest).

They did who what it looked like with the cheat that removed the unit limits (cheat is: bb.increaserentalunitcap on/off )

They also stated that there is a save limit, which was already mentioned in the blog post (they said 100, but the blog post says 99 per save). Note Rebecca said she tried the limit, and she didn’t recommend it. 😊

Rating depends on what’s in the unit, but there’s nothing required.

They also mentioned the limitations. You can’t build them on Sulani water lots, penthouses or in vacation worlds (also mentioned in the blog post).

Note if you want to start over, you can essentially assign all rooms to one unit and then start over.

World of Tomarang:

They showed the world, two neighbourhoods.

Morensong – bustling downtown/busy city with four lots including one that starts empty (40×30, they had their livestream family on it), a national park, a residential rental lot (has one premade family who owns the lot and one empty ‘apartment’) and regular residential starter home. This is also where the night market is, which seemed to start at 6 pm. There is a rabbit hole temple.

Koh Sahpa – more relaxed neighbourhood with two empty lots, a lounge (with the new hot tub), a regular residential lot with a premade family & another residential rental with three units, one of which is empty, the other two are occupied by the premade family from the gameplay trailer. This has the tiger sanctuary, which is a rabbit hole.

I heard third hand that the lots were built by EA.

Gameplay:

They showed their livestream family.

There are few things that will pull things out of their units into the common space. They’ve tweaked autonomy so that sims are more likely to use exercise equipment, grills, do gardening, use laundry (if you have Laundry Day and use laundry). They also mentioned that the mold ghost has some interesting interactions for gardening but that they hadn’t had any luck getting a mold ghost during their practice runs.

The lot they had built had the main home and two rental units which both had a bedroom and bathroom, and the living room and kitchen were shared space.

Coming to base game is the ability to switch to a household by selecting the door/lot, vs having to go to manage worlds (though you can still go to manage worlds).

They showed renting out the third unit (the second unit was rented by the male sim’s father). They showed the ‘Fill Vacancy’ screen. Maintenance starts as ‘poor’.

They showed some of the rules you can activate. No Noise, No Loud Noises, Maximum Occupancy (infants don’t count towards it), No Trash Overload, No Ghosts and they thought there was also a No Pets rule but they were only playing with base game and For Rent.

There have been some sims added who will be available to rent out to. You can rent to sims who aren’t already living in the world.

Note they show the option to ‘unjustly evict’ which can change to be ‘justly evict’ if the tenants have broken rules/not paid rent, etc. But if you unjustly evict you may be subject to fines.

They show the rabbit hole temple that’s in the Morensong neighbourhood. There’s a children’s play area in the neighbourhood area. They also showed the night market area. They show a rabbit hole building that’s a Fish Market where you can buy food.

Night Market:

Lights up at night, seemed to start at 6 pm.

Craft Stall: There’s a craft stall where you can buy various things, including two different tassels, which are collectibles you can find throughout the world through various means and as you discover them you unlock lore and when you complete the collection you unlock an item. You can also get marbles, which is the second collection that comes with the pack.

 Food Stalls:

There are three food stalls, Vegetarian, Drinks & Desserts, and Non-Vegetarian.

They then travelled to the Hoh Sahpa neighbourhood.

The Tiger Sanctuary (rabbit hole), is close to the lounge. It’s not open at night, but you can sneak in, but if you get caught you may get banned (they didn’t get caught but had gotten caught on previous attempts while doing trial runs for the livestream). During the day you can Visit or Support the sanctuary. You can experience fun and interesting stories, and if you support the sanctuary, you may be able to bring home ‘something adorable’ (I expect the toy tiger). They got a pop up for sneaking in and had a choice of two options and got some animal crackers. You can see glowing eyes at night (the tigers).

They also show some nosy interactions (spying on sims).

There’s a ‘cave’ in this neighbourhood that you can explore and learn more lore.

They then show ‘breaking in’ (not the same as burglars). If you’re successful, there will be a timed event and your sim can snoop and may learn a secret about the sim who lives on the lot. If you don’t leave before the break in event ends, your sim may (will?) get caught. They showed an example of a secret you can learn. You can break in on a regular residential lot too. Also note that this is something you can initiate, this is not burglars, it’s really for snooping. Note that you need to be a kleptomaniac to be able to steal. Note that you can blackmail them (this will hit the relationship, but you can earn money) or you can keep the secret, which can help boost the relationship.

They then returned home before the break in event ended.

They showed the pressure cooker and kettle. The pressure cooker is something that they put the food in and then leave it to cook. The kettle you turn on to boil and you can leave. Once it’s boiled, you can choose from the various options (different teas, which they showed, coffee and hot chocolate).

They also showed the mold. They were allergenic mold piles. They cleaned up the ones in the kids’ bedroom. Mold can form if you have the lot challenge on, which can be on any lot, and you need to leave plumbing dirty for it to spawn. The sims seemed to be dazed from the mold.

Note that there is a second lot challenge that is available for regular residential lots ‘maintenance troubles’. This is a default ‘challenge’ for residential rentals (so it’s not available to turn on or off). For the mold piles, you can clean them, destroy them with fire or you can deploy a ‘Mold-B-Gone Bomb for 750 simoleons. The latter gets rid of all the mold, they showed it at the end). Your sim will dress in a bio hazard suit when cleaning/deploying the Mold-B-Gone Bomb, so there doesn’t appear to be an exterminator you hire.

They showed a maintenance event. You can hire someone to look after it (two options, cheap contractor and expensive contractor) or your sim as the landlord can look after it themselves or they can leave the tenant to deal with it. There’s a water leak, haunting event, they mentioned insects too. So, there are different types of maintenance events.

After the maintenance event, they used dev cheats to put down a toxic mold pile (which made me think it takes some time for it to get that bad). They then demonstrated getting rid of the mold with fire (which gave them the fear of fire). They let the fire go for long enough to get rid of the mold pile, and then they put the fire out. They then got rid of the rest using the Mold-B-Gone Bomb. That got rid of the rest of the mold.

Some Early Access Content went live after the walkthrough. This was only Base Game and For Rent and was an early version, so there could be difference from what comes out next week.

Base Game Update:

Bug fixes from Laundry List (see my separate video).

In addition to the noted bug fixes, it seemed like there are some small ‘quality of sim life’ changes coming in the base game update:

  1. Sinks can be assigned as being bathroom, kitchen, or all (see tweet)
  2. You can switch to a different household from live mode (on the apartment or lot).
  3. More swatches for the expensive base game fridge, stove, microwave, and coffee maker so they will match the new appliances and existing ice cream maker/popcorn maker (the latter two require Cool Kitchen or Movie Stuff packs respectively).
  4. Snowy Escape ‘remove shoes’ option coming to base game.

SimGuruNova Tweets re the Pack from After the Gameplay Walkthrough:

A lot more gameplay, it couldn’t all be shown in one short play through as they happen naturally over time (i.e. more time in game was required).

Answer re where landlords can live/how many properties they can own:

Number of secrets:

Blackmailing vs keeping secrets:

Tomarang ‘Truths’ that can be learned from premade Tomarani Sims:

Confirmation that you can play as a tenant:

Links:

Sims YouTube replay (link to starting point): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vln3_Q2pLgU&t=959s

Twitch VOD: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1992266810

Developer Blog post: https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/news/for-rent-faq-with-devs

Laundry List: https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/news/laundry-list-december-1-2023

Blog post: https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/news/for-rent-expansion-pack

Features post: https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/store/addons/the-sims-4-for-rent-expansion-pack

AgentShawnee re closed captioning: https://twitter.com/AgentShawnee/status/1730743355641053471

SimGuruNova Links:

Repost Sinks: https://twitter.com/Simfan923/status/1730679912263024949

Re more GP than shown: https://twitter.com/SimGuruNova/status/1730684936729051353

Re snooping secrets: https://twitter.com/SimGuruNova/status/1730683486443561429

Re property owners: https://twitter.com/SimGuruNova/status/1730683986698289293

Re Tomarang Truths: https://twitter.com/SimGuruNova/status/1730679312586797301

Can play as tenant: https://twitter.com/SimGuruNova/status/1730678265004859797

Re Blackmailing/keeping secrets: https://twitter.com/SimGuruNova/status/1730678446244917615

Contact Me:

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For Rent Gameplay Trailer Overview & Discussion Links (Sims 4)

Video Link

Links Shared in the Video:

Sims Tweet re Trailer: https://twitter.com/TheSims/status/1725213111853203659

Sims’ response re being a tenant: https://twitter.com/TheSims/status/1725231400276594903

Trailer link: https://youtu.be/sdhU5tRCqYc?si=58pFfcbhyY2bHbNk

Release date/time in your own time zone: https://tinyurl.com/yf3dasbp

SimGuruNova Tweets:

Re correction on how leases work: https://twitter.com/SimGuruNova/status/1725219464495710215

How often rent is paid/update on leases: https://twitter.com/SimGuruNova/status/1725295012441911754

Re livestream timing soon: https://twitter.com/SimGuruNova/status/1725220132556063097

Re Multi Lot Types: https://twitter.com/SimGuruNova/status/1725227000707891331

Re non functional units: https://twitter.com/SimGuruNova/status/1725355393373872591

Re no requirements for residential units: https://twitter.com/SimGuruNova/status/1725356725270929832

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Sims 4 For Rent Tweets re Residential Rentals

Link to my video

Link to The Sims Announcements:

Twitter:

Facebook: https://fb.watch/odePYwyJIL/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stories/thesims/3232410755139394876/

SimGuruNinja Tweet:

This wasn’t a direct response to any tweet, but it seems like it’s answering the question about the unit limit? If so, it appears that 6 is the limit unless you use a cheat (new cheat?).

SimGuruNova Tweets:

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