The main focus of the Feb 25, 2025 game update was to add burglars to the game, in addition to preparing the game for the upcoming Businesses and Hobbies Expansion Pack (releasing Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 10 am Pacific).
It also brought bug fixes, most of which were announced in the Feb 18, 2025 laundry list and a few other miscellaneous changes to the game, including more club opportunities, changes to mentoring & a few build/buy and create a sim items.
It also broke mods, the list of updated mods is quite long and not everything has been updated at the time I’m writing this.
This update also added new bugs, including a bad one that caused distortion of children, infants and toddlers. EA has said they’ve identified the problem and are working on an update to fix the issue. They’ve also provided a workaround while we wait for the hotfix.
The Sims Developer Livestream For The Sims 4 Businesses & Hobbies | Base Game Update
Originally scheduled for 10 am Pacific on Friday, February 28, 2025, but due to issues at their broadcasting location, it was rescheduled to 10 am Pacific on Monday, March 3, 2025.
YouTube (will tell you when it’s live in your time zone)
I discuss the Oct 22, 2024, Sims 4 base game update, including what’s new, what was and wasn’t fixed, the mod impact and the new bugs since the update. I also review some other common bugs from before the update. What was your favourite thing in the update & have you experienced any non-mod related issues? 😊🍁 #Sims4 #GameUpdate #Sims4Bugs #Sims4Mods
Many mods broke with the update, including most popular mods (MCCC, UI Cheats to name a couple, those have both been updated). As of the time I’m typing this, many others, though not all, have been updated.
Two good sources to see which of your mods was impacted are noted below:
Note that injection tools that are used by other mods broke with this update. The two main ones are XML Injector and Lot 51 Core Library. Both were updated on Oct 23/24, though XML Injector was reupdated on Oct 23/24. There are two other injection tools that were still broken last I looked on Oct 25/24, I see them mentioned on Luth’s list.
Also, some loading screen mods broke with the update, according to SimMattically, it looks like pack pictures may be replacing the plumbob at some point, or something like that. The tooltips will remain. Original tweet: https://x.com/SimMattically/status/1849068375101567463
Follow Up tweets:
To be fair, I based my original tweet on the code alone, before seeing how it looks. It mentioned a DLC banner with a name and icon, so it seemed like an ad.
The design itself is nice! It’s only frustrating that they turn an opportunity for aesthetics into an advertisement. 🙌🏻
Thursday’s update had more bug fixes than expected, I discuss what was fixed and what of the more recent bugs wasn’t fixed. Have you updated your game? 😊 🍁 #Sims4 #Error123 #Sims4Bugs #LovestruckBugs Video link
I discuss some more information on the error 123 issue, some workarounds and mod fixes, as well as many other common bugs, and possible workarounds when available, since the Jul 23 update and a few Lovestruck bugs. 😊 🍁 Video link
Links referred to in video, including EA AHQ links:
Note that what I covered in my video, and also link below is what I’m seeing as popular issues since the July 23, 2024 updates and the later hot fix/e-patch updates that I noticed when looking through the Sims 4 bug section of EA AHQ.
Updated to add Thunder released a Bug Fix mod for the issue with weeding while gardening after I released my video: https://www.patreon.com/posts/bugfix-tend-fix-94711697 Note this bug fix requires Lot 51 Core Library which is also linked on their bug fix post and Thunder states that it is compatible with LittleMsSam’s gardening workaround fix.
Note that the links that follow are just a handful that I saw that seemed ‘popular’, here’s a link to EA AHQ to see what other bugs are reported and if you don’t see your bug, and have tested in a mod and cc free game (which means nothing in your mods folder but the resource file which the game automatically generates), then do a bug report making sure to fill out the template. https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/bd-p/The-Sims-4-Bugs
Links for bugs mentioned in my video, and if available mods to fix the issues and/or Crinrict reports summarizing the issue:
GRO = Growing Together
BG = Base Game
This list is split into two types, ‘bigger bugs’ that have a bigger effect on game play (10 in that section) and minor bugs that are more of a nuisance and have a smaller impact on game play (6 in that section).
Note that if you are using mods and cc and are experiencing issues, make sure you test in a mods/cc free save as they may be causing problems, even if you’ve updated. Please check either Luth’s mod tracking list on the Sims 4 forums or Scarlett’s mod tracking list.
Note some issues have been fixed as of April 26, 2023 which is noted under the individual points.
Initially it was thought that this was tied to Laundry Day and that disabling the LD stuff pack would help. This doesn’t seem to be the case anymore, so the cause seems to be unknown. If you’ve experienced this, here is some information that EA would like (screenshot from bug report):
3.Parents need to be introduced to infant (BG): Note the issue with this is the parent/caregiver won’t be able to look after the infant until they are introduced. You can hire a nanny to introduce your sim to the infant, or if someone else on the lot is known to the infant, have them do the introduction. If you have MCCC you can use the ‘set relationship levels’ and then choose friends (lower level may work, but that was the option I choose) and your parent will then have all the options to look after the infant. It was initially thought to be tied to the beloved trait, and that may be one cause, but I’ve had it happen with sims who don’t have the beloved trait.
4.Sims lose milestones, including infants (GRO): Note one issue with this as it pertains to infants, is that they don’t seem to be able to get the milestones again and losing them can reset their progress and then they can’t progress any further. Some people found it was triggered by rotational play, others by sending the infants to the grandparents and others just by travelling. Not sure if just going into manage worlds might cause an issue.
5.Sims have all the same name/CAS corruption(GRO + Other): Note that there is a similar existing bug, but it can also be caused by GRO if you try to change traits after sims have learned extra self discovery traits. i.e. either by using the cas.fulleditcheat or if you download a sim from the gallery with extra traits learned through self discovery. See Crinrict’s report for more information.
Second key bit of advice from Crin's post: THIS ERROR CAN SPREAD to other households and even other Saves! If you see this error in CAS with the names or traits, "close your game completely without saving if you run into the error and reload the game." https://t.co/OGy4CqXLMD
6.Teens and Children change appearance due to loose tooth (GRO). The ability to lose a tooth has been temporarily disabled for PC/Mac (Mar 24/23 update) and console will hopefully get the same update shortly while EA works on a solution to this problem. Since the issue is not actually fixed, the bug reports are still open.
7.Pregnancy not Progressing & Relationship Telemetry Hooks Last Exceptions (BG): Neither of these are happening to everyone, but it is an issue for some people. For the never ending pregnancy, some have found that switching to another household has allowed the pregnancy to progress, but that doesn’t seem to be working for everyone, or possibly even many people. There is a bug fix mod for both these issues, which may be related. Fixed in April 18, 2023 game update.
10.Issues with the Mountain Climbing Excursion: The new issue is that the mountain climbing excursion is not progressing. There was an old issue where there was no check mark to select the members. There’s a work around for the latter. You currently need bug fix mod for the excursion not progressing, there is no other work around. Fixed in April 18, 2023 game update.
1.Items Removed pop-up appears when no items removed (BG): This is an older bug, but seems more common since the infant update. You get a message that items from unowned content have been removed but nothing appears to be removed from your build/lot.
Here is where the lots are in San Sequoia (sims can’t walk on the grassy area around these two lots, they can walk on the road and a dirt path that doesn’t show in this map view)
General Advice:
⚠️ Just a general piece of advice I saw Turbodriver give on September 21, 2022 is that if you are experiencing issues with saving, it’s best to save the game in gameplay (i.e. from live mode) versus from manage worlds. ⚠️This can help prevent some issues with corrupting saves. So I recommend if you are editing your world from manage worlds, go into your household/a household and then save the game. While this refers to the issue happening in modded saves, I have seen people have a problem even in unmodded saves.
Maple Simmer 